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Bad Messenger
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Posted - 2009.12.08 11:51:00 -
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No exploits. Working as intended.
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Bad Messenger
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Posted - 2009.12.09 20:03:00 -
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Originally by: X Gallentius
Originally by: Cosmic Raider Fixed. I love it when people are all outraged to discover there is gambling in the casino.
I know what you mean. Get with the times fellas! Time to take all that isk you earned from FW missions and use it to buy an alt (you can still have fun with your main this way), build up Caldari/Amarr standings and then plex with impunity.
And that goes for you Gallente plexers as well. It's freaking ridiculous to see you guys roaming around with your mains plexing when you could be so much more efficient with high Caldari standing alts.
Actually if you think it again you will notice that alts does not cost much at all.
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Bad Messenger
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Posted - 2009.12.10 11:48:00 -
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Originally by: Ralnik Edited by: Ralnik on 10/12/2009 11:40:09
Originally by: Damar Rocarion Edited by: Damar Rocarion on 10/12/2009 11:21:04 Edited by: Damar Rocarion on 10/12/2009 11:19:32 Edited by: Damar Rocarion on 10/12/2009 11:17:25
Originally by: Juren Coda Shame on the Caldari militia pilots who exploit this bug on mass scale at the moment. There will be NO glory in claiming you took all minmatar space using this exploit.
I'll answer this one: Nobody (this is very important) cared about our gaming experience and enjoyment when we were loudly protesting Gallentes use of bugs, such as standings exploit or turning NPCs to fire upon Caldari militia members. I actually seem to recall you ridiculing us when we protested when in combat member of your fleet turned NPCs on us.
Nennamaila resident recently confessed that in fight vs me and Bad Messenger that "Yes, Amon Dei indeed confessed he used the exploit but I didnt know about it" (suffice to say I dont believe the last part at all). Did he apologise, show remorse, say it was lame? Of course not.
So tell me. Why should we listen to people who used the bugs/exploits initially and did not find it shameful in the least? How they can or even dare say "two wrongs dont make right?"
And frankly i'm getting bored now in seeing all the same faces in the front, using same exploits (Hello Val, thanks for using npc bug in Eugales two days ago to turn npcs on Caldari Maller) and being a crutch for whole militia. So go ahead and plex, I wont be there to stop you as I return to Matar front (as PERVS member). It will be up to others to get off their backsides.
To use the old phrase, "Cat is away, mice and rats are running around" basicly means that Caldari/Gallente front is ripe for small gang pvp action. I assume majority of the militia will not care (as we know, plexing gives you STD) but actually, I learned it by now and can actually look at it quite stress free.
Once we get bored with Matar front, we can return to our front and do what is necessary.
Damar Rocarion Brigadier General
Minmatar nor Amarr did these things to you in your plexing war with Gallente. Yet because as you claim, the Gallente broke your toys.. You come to Minmatar space to break our toys.
LoL this is kind of funny TBH.. The best part is now you are losing systems to Gallente because you are in Minmatar space screwing with our war.
Get your facts right boy.
Only place we can go to take systems is minmatar area. And minmatars has been in caldari area using standing advantage all the time. But if you did not knew it it does not mean it did not happen.
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Bad Messenger
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Posted - 2009.12.10 20:38:00 -
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Edited by: Bad Messenger on 10/12/2009 20:38:35
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Bad Messenger
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Posted - 2009.12.13 00:22:00 -
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There was reason why gallente did not get systems back when we defended those
Example
Now think how much you need people if there is more people defending 
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Bad Messenger
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Posted - 2009.12.14 01:03:00 -
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Currently Standing penalty comes along promotions not by taking plex.
There is many ways to prevent alt to get promotions so actually it does not matter if they are in cross militia if you want to keep opposite faction standings high.
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Bad Messenger
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Posted - 2009.12.15 11:40:00 -
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Originally by: BacardiDesire
Originally by: Bad Messenger There was reason why gallente did not get systems back when we defended those
Example
Now think how much you need people if there is more people defending 
09:47 - 10:46
dont you think all those kills happend in 1 hour instead of a gang warpin into him ;)? i was there i died allone so did all the others tr bringing some straight facts to the forums, looks better ;)
Why didn't you gang warp then ?
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Bad Messenger
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Posted - 2009.12.15 21:56:00 -
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Edited by: Bad Messenger on 15/12/2009 21:55:53 yea, make defending so hard now when gallente has to defend, i approve all changes that makes impossible defending more impossible so all systems flip and flop every day !
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Bad Messenger
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Posted - 2009.12.17 17:28:00 -
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Originally by: Droog 1
Have CCP said this is an exploit? Did you file a bug report? afaik CCP have not said this is an exploit so it is working as intended - Much like your plexing in Minmatar space.
There is difference in those, CCP has said about standing bug that it is working as intended, but i doubt CCP has said same about that agro exploit.
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Bad Messenger
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Posted - 2009.12.18 11:49:00 -
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Originally by: Ralnik Edited by: Ralnik on 18/12/2009 01:04:12 I'm taking bets on how long it will be before Damar runs off to go grief elsewhere. He has pretty much hit a brick wall in Minmatar space and his little alts can't keep up with what is being undone, despite his use of standing mechanics exploits.
Minmatar Militia have stepped it up and answered the call. We have recaptured 5 systems and stopped the capture of Brin and de-contested many system that were under attack.
I think at this point Damar would need about 50 alt to stop what is happening. Which means I'm pretty sure he will soon decide that he has lost his chance to achieve what ever it was he thought he could get away with.
I'm sure he's already thinking up some other way to be lame, but only time will tell. I'm betting the Amarr won't like him much after the realize what he's started in the Minmatar Militia.
There is nothing to bet for, we already 'ran' to grief else where.
I do not see how we hit the brick wall, if there was wall it was quite thin.
You sure captured systems back and rescued Brin, but as our original plan was we just make systems vulnerable and Amarr do what they ever want with those.
But as it is end of the year and some people has some irl things with their families, we left back to caldari space and most of us do something else than play eve.
I hope CCP got some new ideas how to improve fw.
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Bad Messenger
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Posted - 2009.12.18 12:20:00 -
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Originally by: Droog 1
Originally by: Bad Messenger
Originally by: Droog 1
Have CCP said this is an exploit? Did you file a bug report? afaik CCP have not said this is an exploit so it is working as intended - Much like your plexing in Minmatar space.
There is difference in those, CCP has said about standing bug that it is working as intended, but i doubt CCP has said same about that agro exploit.
I'm sure Damarr has a few GM replys from his petitions of this so called aggro 'bug' he could show you. You should bug report it/petition and see what answer CCP give you.
Maybe some people are transferring aggro to 'bring it to CCPs attention' in the same way you did when you decided to plex with alts in Minmattar space. After all, you did claim that your intentions behind using alts and abusing their standings was to highlight a problem to CCP. So it's pretty much the same thing. Right?
No it is not a same thing.
CCP responded to my petition about transferring agro bug that they could not reproduce it so they could not say much about it. They were asking pictures or videos about it so they could look it further but i did not have one on my hands at that moment.
But about standing bug they clearly responded that our plan did not contain any exploit and we are free to use it.
So difference is that another is not a bug it is working as intended but another clearly is.
But as you are gallente supported you will support Val to the bitter end. Val Erian has always been one of the top bug users in fw history, he can play better than many other gallente in normal ways but he just want to use buggs when things gets out of his hands and he cannot beat enemy by normal methods.
Turning agro is exploit if he get free loot after npc has killed caldari player.
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Bad Messenger
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Posted - 2009.12.19 06:16:00 -
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Originally by: X Gallentius
Originally by: Vikarion Well, I've never seen Yuri pull it, but your buddies have. I kinda have to believe the evidence of my own two eyes.
I don't see why CCP can't reproduce this bug. Half the time it happened to me while raiding FW missions. The stealth bombers would just continue to move away until the Feds started shooting. Happened all the time and the WTs knew what was going on too.
Solution? Warp out and then back again. No big deal.
It is dig deal for defender if there is enemy fleet camping plex gate, warping off lets enemy to go freely in plex and prevent defender to come back in. And timer stops running and enemy gets more time etc...
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Bad Messenger
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Posted - 2009.12.20 15:17:00 -
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It seems that our little operation made minmatar/amarr front back alive 
Now occupancy has meaning and all want to plex, at least on minmatar side.
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Bad Messenger
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Posted - 2009.12.21 11:55:00 -
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Originally by: EVIL SYNNs Just another PERVS.. "we going to do this... wait... emmm... this ain't working the way we thought... Lets leave and hope they don't notice". Its a shame, PERVS are a good corp, but they hate to lose so they just leave and say "didn't want it anyway".
If you can tell me what we exactly lose or what was not working the way we thought?
We lost couple systems as expected, main reason was that gallente did not want to come to fight in plexes where was caldari npc, now we get fight in plexes again, every one win.
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Bad Messenger
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Posted - 2009.12.21 13:35:00 -
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Originally by: EVIL SYNNs
Originally by: Bad Messenger
Originally by: EVIL SYNNs Just another PERVS.. "we going to do this... wait... emmm... this ain't working the way we thought... Lets leave and hope they don't notice". Its a shame, PERVS are a good corp, but they hate to lose so they just leave and say "didn't want it anyway".
If you can tell me what we exactly lose or what was not working the way we thought?
We lost couple systems as expected, main reason was that gallente did not want to come to fight in plexes where was caldari npc, now we get fight in plexes again, every one win.
I'm sorry I thought you went to amarr space to take all the systems using alts with positive standings to that CCP would see the problem and sort it. I'm sure I can link to a load of posts where you/PERVS said that.
So either I missed the CCP patch notes that was CCP sort the problem or you stopped doing it before your stated completed goal?
Or is it the one where you would only defend 2 Caldari Captured systems? Or have you sold your accounts and given them to someone else? In which case, sorry. But I see you all DT plexing like normal all over Gallente recaptured space.
Or the POS in High Sec to get fights? When the fight came and an EXACT time was given to everyone for the fight due to reinforcement you pulled that corp out of FW. But that was our fault for shooting it and not war deccing the corp, the caldari for not coming to defend and you didn't really want the fight.
So now its fights in plexes you want.. Excellent. A new target good for you and your corp.. NICE! Although your only 8th top killing caldari corp.. So if its pew pew you want, sounds like 6 other player corps have better ways of getting pew pew..
The problem with publicly setting goals is that people remind you of them.
Some people just go to all trolss 
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Bad Messenger
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Posted - 2009.12.21 14:02:00 -
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Originally by: EVIL SYNNs Edited by: EVIL SYNNs on 21/12/2009 13:58:41
Originally by: Bad Messenger Some people just go to all trolss 
Ah thank god.. I did wonder if you were being serious. I mean it did look silly you saying "what goals?" and me being able to link them all and the subsequent changes. /me wipes brow it was only a troll
Have you seen any PERVS made thread about our goals lately?
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Bad Messenger
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Posted - 2009.12.21 14:28:00 -
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Originally by: Selous
Originally by: Bad Messenger
Have you seen any PERVS made thread about our goals lately?
I havent seen any pervs lately that can find their goals
( tried looking under bed ? )
That is true we do not have any goals at this moment. Maybe on next year, maybe.
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